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		<title>What the housing bubble looked like up close and personal</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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I thought it would be interesting to look at the sale prices of condos in the condo complex where we rent in Downey, CA. The graph speaks for itself. Prices in Southern California were completely out of touch with reality. Look at the bubble in the early 90's. Prices only went up by 50% and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_923" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 585px"><a href="http://geekyweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/condoBubble1.png"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-923" title="condoBubble" src="http://geekyweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/condoBubble1-575x316.png" alt="Price trend of Quill Condos in Downey using data from Redfin" width="575" height="316" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Price trend of Quill Condos in Downey using data from Redfin</p></div>

<p>I thought it would be interesting to look at the sale prices of condos in the condo complex where we rent in Downey, CA. The graph speaks for itself. Prices in Southern California were completely out of touch with reality. Look at the bubble in the early 90's. Prices only went up by 50% and then declined for 6 straight years. In this last bubble, prices increased nearly 350% between 2000 and 2007. Much of those gains have been wiped out in 2 years since the bubble burst.</p>

<p>This graph is quite useful because it is comparing identical units (~300 sq. ft. max difference) in close proximity to each other. Expanding the comparison to Downey as a whole would introduce comparisons between dissimilar homes in substantially different neighborhoods. It doesn't make much sense mixing the large sprawling homes of Northeast Downey in with the tiny houses south of the 105.</p>

<p>Does anybody really believe prices will continue to trend upwards with high unemployment, shadow inventory twice the size of what is listed and the upcoming wave of Option ARM recasts? Good thing Congress extended the $8,000 credit, wouldn't want housing to be affordable.</p>
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		<title>Just a few thoughts on itemizing and deductions</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know, another boring post about money and taxes, but stick around you might learn something.

The answer to the "should I itemize?" question is actually pretty simple: if you don't have enough deductions to surpass the standard deduction then you don't itemize. You take the larger of the two and be done with it because [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, another boring post about money and taxes, but stick around you might learn something.</p>

<p>The answer to the "should I itemize?" question is actually pretty simple: if you don't have enough deductions to surpass the standard deduction then you don't itemize. You take the larger of the two and be done with it because that's what benefits you the most. Note for the married folks, if you file separately and one of you itemizes then the other has to too.</p>

<p>The standard deduction is great for people with very little to deduct and itemizing is great for people with lots to deduct. Once you get in the situation where your total itemized deductions are close to your standard deduction then things like the mortgage interest deduction aren't really that valuable. The mortgage interest deduction is touted as one of the benefits of home ownership, but people like me wouldn't benefit at all from it.</p>

<p>In our situation, if we owned a home we'd have to hand the bank around $6,000 in interest every year and pay $3,000 in property tax to simply break even with the standard deduction. It's only after the $10,700 threshold that each additional $1 deduction would benefit from itemizing. Even then I'd only be getting about 20% of that back, so what is the benefit of giving away $9,000 a year and then spending $1 to get back $0.20 after that. In the future, the standard deduction will increase with inflation and we'd gradually pay less interest over the life of a mortgage making it less likely that we'd be over the standard deduction. So whenever I hear someone talk about the tax benefits of owning a home, I take it with a big grain of salt.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22499.html">Most Americans Don't Itemize on Their Tax Returns</a> gives a pretty good break down of who itemizes. Those individuals with higher incomes have a greater incentive to itemize because the deductions are more valuable as you move up the tax bracket ladder and this is certainly reflected in the itemizing rates.</p>

<p>I did hear about a proposal to add an additional $1,000 to the standard deduction for people with mortgage interest that don't itemize. Can't find anything through Google right now so post a link if you know what I'm talking about.</p>
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		<title>Did things get as bad as I thought?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back in August of 2007 I wrote this post, Someone forgot to refill the Real Estate ATM, and predicted that we would see a continued drop in prices, foreclosures would go up and so on. What I didn't see coming was a big drop in the stock market, sharp increase in unemployment and the massive [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in August of 2007 I wrote this post, <a href="http://geekyweekly.com/2007/someone-forgot-to-refill-the-real-estate-atm">Someone forgot to refill the Real Estate ATM</a>, and predicted that we would see a continued drop in prices, foreclosures would go up and so on. What I didn't see coming was a big drop in the stock market, sharp increase in unemployment and the massive expansion of government into the financial and mortgage markets. Things are definitely worse than I thought they would be.</p>
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		<title>Shared: Analyst sees &#8216;ghost town&#8217; in Inland Empire</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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Analyst sees 'ghost town' in Inland Empire
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<p><a href="http://feeds.latimes.com/~r/LaLand/~3/325123458/analyst-sees-gh.html">Analyst sees 'ghost town' in Inland Empire</a></p>
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		<title>Shared: Interview with Senator Government Genius:  Discussing the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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Interview with Senator Government Genius:  Discussing the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008
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<p><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/DrHousingBubble-HowILearnedToLoveSocal/~3/320761934/">Interview with Senator Government Genius:  Discussing the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008</a></p>
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		<title>Shared: Real Homes of Genius:  Today we Salute you Beverly Hills 90210.  Making $1 Million in Home Equity Disappear.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
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		<title>Shared: The L.A. housing bubble: a snapshot in time</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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